And Jamyang Khyentse Choekyi Lodro said: If you want to see the buddha nature, the closest, the closest reflection of this buddha nature is this physical human guru. Other than that, there are many distant reflection like the Shakyamuni, you know Avalokiteshvara. Those are distant though. Those are distant. And this is a big point. See this is also why the guru path makes the path short. Because you know, with Shakyamuni Buddha and all of this, they will never come and correct you, you understand. You can do anything. You can basically interpret your path. This is the problem with the guruless path.