Even the most seasoned Dharma practitioner in the west, sometimes I do have doubt how much they are really understanding. Of course we are not talking about an actual realization of nonduality but we are talking about intellectual understanding of nonduality. Because the concept is just not provable. Because every logic, language, method of measurement is dualistic. So dualistic method cannot measure and value something nondualistic obviously. And anything that cannot be proved or anything that does not have a manufacturing date so to speak I think in the materialistic world, modern world, it is all not really, it is a story, basically it is as a story, it really doesn’t have much value in it.