In the Tantrayana, guru, the teacher, is taken as the ultimate, the embodiment of the all the object of refuge. Now that is saying a lot. That is really like. The reason why I was telling you earlier, those who have gone through the Theravada and the Mahayana teachings, then taking the Tantrayana, I was just saying that they are really good. The reason why I said this is because in all this Sutrayana which is the like Theravada tradition, they really encourage analysis, critical thinking. They always quote this quotations like come and see, not come and join, see for yourself. Buddha himself said, my teachings you have to analyze. You cannot take it for face value. And these are very important. And in the Vajrayana, we are assuming that you have done that. But you see the guy who came from California, recently, they are not doing this, they have not done that. And this is why there is a big misunderstanding about this guru business. In Tantrayana, guru is not a – actually even so we usually for a conventional reason we say, guru is, you know, guru, master, you know the word master. Actually in the Vajrayana, Tantrayana, guru is the path. And the reason is by now we are assuming you have done all the analysis such as, is all compounded things impermanent or not. For years you studied this, for years you studied is everything truly existent or not. All of that. If not years, at least a few month. You have been doing that. And then really coming to a conclusion that the most guilty, culprit, most – yes the real culprit is the ego. Clinging to oneself, cherishing oneself. After all the analysis we realize that cherishing oneself is the, it all boils down to this. This is the mother of all the emotion. Cherishing oneself. Not only cherishing oneself, actually even something more subtle then that, thinking that there is actually a truly existing self. Having that kind of delusion, that is the real culprit. Okay? After analysis if you come to that conclusion then next what. Next you have to open your diary book. Diary book. How much time you have. It is a matter of scheduling. Do you have lot of time or do you have a short time. Okay you want to get rid of this cherishing self, you want to get rid of the clinging to the self? Now, how much time do you have. Do you have three countless eons? Or you want to do it fast and get done with it. So that is the question now, the scheduling question. So generally we are assuming that everybody wants to get done with it quite as soon as possible. You know, right. We want the liberation fast. So now what do we have. What can we do. The fastest method is to hire someone. Fastest method is to really poke on you to really stir you, poke you, to really upset you. Also give you of course the path, the truth, of course. Just poking and, what you call it, upsetting is not enough. That you can just go to any place. But someone who can also give you – but those are equally important though. Someone who knows how to give you the right path, you know all the path, okay this what to do in order to fight aggression, this is what you do to fight the desire, anger. But he is not good at poking you or upsetting you. Not qualified, not good. You know many people these days worry there is a talk about all you know abusive gurus and stuff like that. Actually, from the Dharma point of view, we actually have the shortage of someone who actually poke you. We have fairly good enough gurus who can give you information. There are many many scholastic, well trained. Okay I have this and that problem. Guru will say oh yes page number twenty six. You need to do shamata, vipassana, this this this. There is many gurus who can do that. But a guru who has the courage, guru who has the courage to tell you, okay every morning you have to smell my armpit. That’s difficult. Because this guru has an agenda you see. This guru doesn’t want to lose students. This guru wants to have many many students. Become very popular. And then telling people smell armpit is not the right way to become popular. Have you ever seen a pamphlet, leaflet that says His Holiness this and that, expert in smelling your armpits or something. We always say His Holiness this, Manjushri himself, compassionate, he is the manifestation of this and that. We actually have the shortage of guru who actually knows how to poke people. Really, believe me, this is the truth. People actually are worried about, there is too much abusive people. Yes this is true, this is true. But if you are spiritually thinking, if you are serious, we don’t have enough. Yes we have to hire people who can do this job. And the thing is this, the challenge is this, this is your question I am answering. Challenge is this guru who you are supposed to think he is the embodiment of all the Buddha if he looks like the golden statue that you have just recently bought from India, you know this beautiful, serene, it won’t work. Then the whole, the guru effect won’t work. That is the challenge. This guru must like, has to have some kind of a disliking and liking. This guru needs to, this guru has to yawn sometimes. He has to fall asleep. He has to sort of do strange things. That is the tricky part. That is the tricky part. We don’t want to, actually you know, we should not talk about it too much, it is very, from the conventional point of view it is criminal to talk these things. It is almost like a crime. It is actually. It is.